In today’s episode, Cliff and I speak with Fred Guttenberg, who became an outspoken gun safety advocate after his 14-year-old daughter Jaime was killed in a mass shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida in 2018. We have a long discussion with Fred about his story, his new book “Find the Helpers: What 9/11 and Parkland Taught Me About Recovery, Purpose, and Hope,” and about the time Brett Kavanaugh refused to shake his hand. After our interview with Fred, Cliff and I talk for another 45 minutes about the other news of the day, including Trump’s taxes, the latest polls, and tonight’s Trump-Biden debate.

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