In today’s subscriber-only episode, Amanda Carpenter, prominent Never-Trumper, columnist at the Trump-critical Bulwark, and contributor to CNN joins us talk about the election and to revisit her book, “Gaslighting America: Why We Love It When Trump Lies to Us,” now that Trump is over three years into his reign. Among the topics: What is gaslighting and how does Trump use it; why Trump won’t just go away if/after he loses in November; how Trump, Don Jr. and the alt-right will continue to terrorize GOP members of Congress even if Biden wins; Amanda’s optimism that far more Republicans are fed up with Trump than they were just two years ago; why Amanda sees a future in which Republicans don’t repeal the Obamacare; and whether (and how) the GOP finally cleanses itself of Trumpism.

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