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We had a great Zoom conversation today with two of the founders of liberal Super PAC MeidasTouch — brothers Jordy and Brett Meiselas — about what led them to form MeidasTouch, how liberal advocacy changes now that Trump is gone (but Trumpism isn’t), what they’re focusing on over the coming year, and just a really fun conversation about lots of things. We laughed a lot. These guys are great fun. I think you’ll enjoy this.

This is the audio version of the podcast. The Zoom video version can be found here.

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