John has 2 interesting interviews for the holiday. First he welcomes back American history writer Kenneth C. Davis and they discuss the history of the 4th of July and how it is being distorted by corrupt Republican politicians. Then he interviews forensic accounting expert and documentarian Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope. They discuss her new book “Fool Me Once: Scams, Stories, and Secrets from the Trillion-Dollar Fraud Industry” which is described as a riveting look at the perpetrators, victims, and whistleblowers behind financial crimes.