In today’s UnPresidented Podcast, author and “Never-Trumper” David Frum discusses his new book, “Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy.” The overall topic of discussion is how America returns to any sense of normalcy after Trump is hopefully defeated in November, including whether Trump should be pardoned, or jailed, after leaving office. But also, how we restore all the institutions of government that Trump has broken (or shown to be far more vulnerable to corruption than we’d ever imagined). And we close with a discussion of why David, a Canadian by birth, became so enamored with America.

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